@Katzenschinken said in #38:
> Am I understanding you right here and you are suggesting that when an earthquake happens then a planet or a star is not at the position where it was supposed to be according to celestial motion laws? That Jupiter or Saturn could be 50 million kilometers further on their orbit or jumped to another orbit around the Sun than Kepler would tell the astronomers it should be?
No, that isn't case. In ancient times people noted positions of various stars when particular incident happened like earthquake and later saved them in scriptures and did same every time and drew conclusions. On that basis, almost all incidents were predicted on alignment of stars but not in case of Earthquake. When Earth shook that time people found positioning of stars different from what they noted previously. No talk of orbit just simple logic.
> And in case I understood you correctly: Are you fucking serious? Do you realize that astronomers are looking at the sky all the time and that if a planet jumped his orbit every astronomer worth his salt would go into a frenzy? That this would make headlines in every scientific journal?
I just explained you the point, read it.
> That's just BS. Apart from your claim (which is just that: a claim without any merits) astronomy is about knowledge. And the Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks etc. just didn't have the knowledge of today. Which is not their fault but neither does it allow you to make such absurd claims.
Lol! Human intelligence in that era is far better than today's, ask any scientist.
> Astrology IS superstition.
No problem. People (like you) think Astrology is superstitious but it is neither Science and it differs from superstition.
> BS. You clearly never heard of Erastothenes who in 300 BC measured the angle under which the Sun shines on the surface of the Earth at midday at different places and calculated the diameter of the Earth with 5% accuracy from his measurements. 2300 years ago!
So, there were genius people in that time period. You proved yourself wrong as you opposed the idea of more intelligent people in that era which I said earlier.
2300 years ago!
Also, then life was highly advanced. Seems like you haven't read about holy books. Let's take one case at moment. In Ramayana (Hindu epic), Lord Raavan had some sort of air travelling system in which he used to fly with ease. Go and read others as if I tell all then all space of Lichess would be filled!
> BTW: How does your claim go along with your other claim that people of ancient times were so much cleverer than people of today?
You helped me disprove yourself before! Read it!
> The Randi Challenge was up for 50 years. Enough time for a determined psychic or astrologist to get his act together and earn a lot more money than by conning gullible people.
Standards in all aspects have decreased over time. Hence, astrology power of a saint has decreased greatly. Modern astrologers stand no chance with ancient astrologers.
> It has: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886905004046
You clearly didn't read my next sentence. Give a proof but not scientific cause anyone would call themselves correct. Understood?
> Am I understanding you right here and you are suggesting that when an earthquake happens then a planet or a star is not at the position where it was supposed to be according to celestial motion laws? That Jupiter or Saturn could be 50 million kilometers further on their orbit or jumped to another orbit around the Sun than Kepler would tell the astronomers it should be?
No, that isn't case. In ancient times people noted positions of various stars when particular incident happened like earthquake and later saved them in scriptures and did same every time and drew conclusions. On that basis, almost all incidents were predicted on alignment of stars but not in case of Earthquake. When Earth shook that time people found positioning of stars different from what they noted previously. No talk of orbit just simple logic.
> And in case I understood you correctly: Are you fucking serious? Do you realize that astronomers are looking at the sky all the time and that if a planet jumped his orbit every astronomer worth his salt would go into a frenzy? That this would make headlines in every scientific journal?
I just explained you the point, read it.
> That's just BS. Apart from your claim (which is just that: a claim without any merits) astronomy is about knowledge. And the Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks etc. just didn't have the knowledge of today. Which is not their fault but neither does it allow you to make such absurd claims.
Lol! Human intelligence in that era is far better than today's, ask any scientist.
> Astrology IS superstition.
No problem. People (like you) think Astrology is superstitious but it is neither Science and it differs from superstition.
> BS. You clearly never heard of Erastothenes who in 300 BC measured the angle under which the Sun shines on the surface of the Earth at midday at different places and calculated the diameter of the Earth with 5% accuracy from his measurements. 2300 years ago!
So, there were genius people in that time period. You proved yourself wrong as you opposed the idea of more intelligent people in that era which I said earlier.
2300 years ago!
Also, then life was highly advanced. Seems like you haven't read about holy books. Let's take one case at moment. In Ramayana (Hindu epic), Lord Raavan had some sort of air travelling system in which he used to fly with ease. Go and read others as if I tell all then all space of Lichess would be filled!
> BTW: How does your claim go along with your other claim that people of ancient times were so much cleverer than people of today?
You helped me disprove yourself before! Read it!
> The Randi Challenge was up for 50 years. Enough time for a determined psychic or astrologist to get his act together and earn a lot more money than by conning gullible people.
Standards in all aspects have decreased over time. Hence, astrology power of a saint has decreased greatly. Modern astrologers stand no chance with ancient astrologers.
> It has: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886905004046
You clearly didn't read my next sentence. Give a proof but not scientific cause anyone would call themselves correct. Understood?
