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>If you criticise Israel...
It is totally allowed to criticise Israel without getting beheaded or anything.
@four_legs_good said in #1:
> ... then you want Israel destroyed.
Not necessarily true. There are those that criticise Israel without wanting Israel destroyed. Probably very common.
There are those that want Israel destroyed without criticising Israel. Maybe uncommon?
There are those that criticise Israel and want Israel destroyed. Also very common.
Grow up!
It is totally allowed to criticise Israel without getting beheaded or anything.
@four_legs_good said in #1:
> ... then you want Israel destroyed.
Not necessarily true. There are those that criticise Israel without wanting Israel destroyed. Probably very common.
There are those that want Israel destroyed without criticising Israel. Maybe uncommon?
There are those that criticise Israel and want Israel destroyed. Also very common.
Grow up!
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@four_legs_good said in #6:
> Obviously pretending that a murderous terror organisation are freedom fighters only doing self-defense isn't much better.
Putting everything that sais not every kill is cause by hamas ....
War isn't black and white
In all wars some level or crimes
There are those who comit crimes and those who comit it in a huge Disproportionate way
> At some point, one must realise being the oppressed for decades doesn't grant you the right to reply in any immoral way you want.
Being oppressed for years doesn't mean you also can go to any land and claim it yours :)
> Obviously pretending that a murderous terror organisation are freedom fighters only doing self-defense isn't much better.
Putting everything that sais not every kill is cause by hamas ....
War isn't black and white
In all wars some level or crimes
There are those who comit crimes and those who comit it in a huge Disproportionate way
> At some point, one must realise being the oppressed for decades doesn't grant you the right to reply in any immoral way you want.
Being oppressed for years doesn't mean you also can go to any land and claim it yours :)
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Did you miss "Grow up!" ?
@four_legs_good have you read what hamas executives said
From their words I understood that some members disobeyed orders and went against them because when you look at it hamas has no benefits from killing civilians, an alive hostage is better then a dead civilian for them, the first pressures the idf the second destroys their reputation and support
Killing civilians wasn't the orders
There are also as I said other armed groups that might have caused significant amount of deaths
From their words I understood that some members disobeyed orders and went against them because when you look at it hamas has no benefits from killing civilians, an alive hostage is better then a dead civilian for them, the first pressures the idf the second destroys their reputation and support
Killing civilians wasn't the orders
There are also as I said other armed groups that might have caused significant amount of deaths
"other armed groups" sounds a lot like the other terror groups that have been found with a suspiciously large amount of sheqels in their pockets.
*cough* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_state-sponsored_terrorism *cough*
*cough* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_state-sponsored_terrorism *cough*
@Human77 said in #16:
> Did you miss "Grow up!" ?
I believe @four_legs_good's original post was a response to @Raspberry_yoghurt. Neither of them actually believes #1, but for different reasons.
Granted that, I think #1 oversimplifies things a lot because it's convenient. Why do we have to use a strawman to argue all the time?
> Did you miss "Grow up!" ?
I believe @four_legs_good's original post was a response to @Raspberry_yoghurt. Neither of them actually believes #1, but for different reasons.
Granted that, I think #1 oversimplifies things a lot because it's convenient. Why do we have to use a strawman to argue all the time?
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